Ducati 900ss valve seat install and cutting

A small shop solution to a big problem, how do you install and cut precise, effective valve seats for your racing engines without a million dollar shop.

I’ve never had an expensive valve seat cutting machine, would I like one?  No, frankly, the real estate one would take up in my rather small shop wouldn’t likely make up for the time savings in cutting valve seats, and frankly, I like to see how much engine work I can get my Bridgeport mill to do.  Besides, it’s a lot more fun to see what you can get away with, especially when lots of people tell you how something needs to be done!

exhaust valve seat bore
machining the valve seat bore
ducati 900ss valve seat cutting
setting up the valve seat cutter

My plan for the seats in the racing Ducati head I’m building is to use 630 bronze, both for its great wear resistance properties, as well as its great heat conductivity.  In a racing engine, one of the goals is to get heat from combustion the hell out of the engine post haste, sintered metal seats may have the wear resistance of bronze, but they most definitely don’t conduct heat, and that’ll be a problem here.  I designed these seats to use a blended radius instead of a 3, 5 or 7 angle valve job, I didn’t have any particular reason other than I’d like to try it, I can make it happen, and I’ve heard good stories about it.

diy valve seat cutter grinding
grinding inserts for my DIY valve seat cutter
900ss bronze exhaust valve seat
Ducati 900ss racing engine with a bronze blended radius exhaust valve seat

The first challenge was to figure out how big the radius on the valve seat needed to be, for the valve to seat at a proper depth, and to have the 45 degree contact area line up with the middle of the valve face, if I designed the radius wrong, the valve would either seat too deep in the head, or the contact area wouldn’t line up.  I used SolidWorks to model the valve and the seat, and made sure that I had a shape that would work.  At that point, I needed to translate that into a cutter, you can’t simply cut the seats, drive them into the head, and expect things to line up all nicey nice, so you’ve gotta drive them in uncut, then do all the machine work in place, which ensures both a pain in the ass job, and that things are all concentric with the valve guide bore.  I used my surface grinder and some angle chucks, along with a wheel I cut the blended radius into, to make some 7-degree clearance hss cutters for my valve cutting tools (which I made earlier on the mill).

ducati 900ss racing engine valve seat install
ducati valve seat cutting by hand

Once the head gets lined up in the mill, the cutters go in on top of a spring and the Z handle is used to do the fine cutting, they really work like a charm and the nice thing is I can grind some new cutters for different size valve seats or different blends or whatever, it’s a great simply DIY system.

ducati 900ss race engine
making the final cut with the 45 degree cutter on the bronze exhaust valve seat

After the blend cut goes in, the 45 degree cutter is used to put the seat contact area in, this 45 degree face mates with the 45 degree face on the valve and ensures good sealing but almost more importantly, good heat transfer from the valve to the head, exhaust valves in racing engines are subjected to extreme exhaust gas temperatures and WILL fail without a good surface to transfer heat from the valve head to the cylinder head.

 

Ducati 900ss Heads

I’ve lately been working on improving the performance of 90’s Ducati supersport engines, base horsepower runs about 75-80 at the wheel, which isn’t bad for an air cooled two valve engine, but people who race these bikes have been running up to 115-120hp. Most of the improvements are found in the head, modification of anything below that is really for reliability. Bruce Meyers, who has been building these engines for 20+ years, has been assisting me in my modifications, part of the plan being that I will eventually design and cast new cylinder heads based on our combined efforts.

Modified Head
Modified Ducati Monster Head
Ducati Racing Head
Bruce Meyers Racing Head

The biggest modification done to the racing heads comes in the intake port, which is straightened out and made wider at the manifold, this increases the velocity of the intake air and allows for development of power in the higher rpm range, provided a proper cam is used.  Bruce also uses larger valves, which require re-angling of the guides and seat bores by a combined 2 degrees.  The exhaust port is left largely untouched, the reason being that the intake air is being drawn in by vacuum and whatever resonant pulse is coming from the intake stack, whereas the exhaust is being pushed out under high pressure, meaning the exhaust gas will tend to find its way out even with a less than ideal port.

 

Honda CB360

Ducati inspired Honda CB360 captures the essence of 70’s motorcycle aesthetics.

Today we took some photos of the recently completed CB360 we built for a customer in Texas. This bike takes a lot of inspiration from 70’s Ducatis, I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for the designs of Fabio Taglioni, the man responsible for Ducati’s look from the 70’s to the 90’s. The Ducatis of the late 70’s are in my opinion, the nicest looking motorcycles of that decade. The alloy tank was hand formed along with the custom front and rear fenders, and one off side panels. The stock CB360 lacks a lot in the aesthetics department, and I feel this one is a historically appropriate rebuild. The 360 engine leaves a lot to be desired as well, fortunately for this bike, I have a passion for mix&match diy engine rebuilding. With pistons from a GS850 and a racing cam, I bored the engine over on my bridgeport mill and honed the cylinders to size to upgrade it to a 378 with about 10:1 compression, after some weeks tuning and tweaking, the bike really runs like a dream, plenty of power for its size yet still smooth enough to put some serious miles on.